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  Did Jesus really exist?

  by slimboyfat in

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  i had been wondering over the past few years whether there really was a historical jesus at all, until a few months ago when i read bart ehrman's latest book "did jesus exist?

  " initially i was persuaded by his argument that the nt contains multiple sources that testify to jesus' existence.

  but more recently i have been reading the christ myth position of richard carrier and his responses to ehrman.

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  never a jw

  Raymond Franz,

  The guys you mention don't talk about Jesus, they talk about Christians. Quite a difference. None of them were witnesses of Jesus deeds or sayings. The only people who talk about Jesus are the apostles. The gospel writers wrote at least three decades after his death. Their stories, even though are to some extent copies of each other (Mrk Luke and Matthew), they still have several conflicting accounts. Jesus may have existed, but no way he is "more historical" than Alexander the Great. You are dead wrong on that one.
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  The long road of the VW Bus coming to an end

  by designs in

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  i didn't even realize the vw bus was still in production but vw in brazil still produces the iconic bus, production will end in december.. many of us had vw buses, surf wagons et al, i had a 1959 'camper' special we would take on surfing trips to baja california and camp on the beaches down by san quentin.. i took my 'magic bus ride' with four jw buddies just before my arrest over the vietnam draft.

  we rode up the california coast to big sur.

  with the side door open and feet hanging out we traveled the coastal route from los angeles through santa barbara, pismo beach, san simeon, big sur and monterey ending in san francisco where i hopped a flight back to los angeles for my arraignment.. enjoy-.

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  never a jw

  Reading your posts makes me feel young. Thank you guys!
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  Was I too harsh?

  by chrisuk in

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  2. friends

  hello, first let me apologixe for both my spelling and my grammer in advance, both are not my strong points.. i'll keep this short.

  since i've been a child my mother has studied on and off with jw's ( i'm now 34) so i've been around it most of my life, i studied on and off myself for around 10 years.

  thank's to this site and jwfacts i'll never study or step foot inside a kingdom hall again.

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  You have no idea what harsh is until you see my e-mails to two elders in my wife's congregation. You won't see them! That's how harsh they are

  Your letter was firm and respectful. Just the way it should have been.

  Funny that he said he would only discussed Bible based stuff. Isn't the Watchtower literature, according to JW's, bible based. If their literature is bible based and everything that apostates talk about is Watchtower teachings in their litearature, then apostates are talking about only Bible based stuff. Isn't that right??
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  What is the watchtowers policy on harbouring illegal immigrants

  by hoser in

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  2. friends

  i just read an opening post by el_ guapo about a one-eyed blind illegal immigrant that was staying at jw's houses because she couldn't find any work.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/262454/1/news-that-tugged-at-my-heart-strings.

  aren't there laws against harbouring illegals?.

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  never a jw

  Watchtower is happy to take even Martians in, as long they preach, sell ragazines and contribute. Many so called privileges are denied to illegal aliens, just to keep some semblance of being a law abiding religion
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  Quick Poll - How many are...

  by mrhhome in

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  2. friends

  how many here are (a) ex-jw, (b) non-jw with jw relatives or spouses, (c) inactive jw, or (d) active jw who stay in for your own reasons?.

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  Frazzled UBM,

  Your story is the same as mine. By any chance, do you live in Los Angleles area. I need to vent with someone in person
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  Quick Poll - How many are...

  by mrhhome in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how many here are (a) ex-jw, (b) non-jw with jw relatives or spouses, (c) inactive jw, or (d) active jw who stay in for your own reasons?.

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  never a jw

  never a witness, but brothers, wife, mother-in-law, brothers-in-law, sisters-in-law, lots of nephews and nieces, dogs still in the truth
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  The 144,000 and the Great Crowd of Revelation

  by Leolaia in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  8-11; ch.

  as in ch.

  like the "great crowd", they are "of every race, language, people, and nation (cf.

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  never a jw

  I imagine Leolaia being told by a chauvinistic, window-washer elder how to interpret the Bible. Utterly ridiculous!! And yet some elders do believe they know better than women just by virtue of their sex.
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  WTS admits (indirectly) decreasing in U.S. publisher ratio to population

  by Gayle in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  service year reports:.

  2010 - 1/259.

  so, the wts is not keeping up with the u.s. population (and they know it), though it rants about increasing pubs., etc..

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  never a jw

  Spanish congregations, according to my experience here in California, are stagnant. The big surges hapenned in the 90's. Now the congregations gain one and lose one.
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  A JW apologist writes about VAT 4956

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a jw wrote the following in an attempt to discredit the evidence provided by vat 4956. comments on the author's logic would be appreciated.

  does vat 4956 prove 587?.

  many point to vat 4956 as proof that jerusalem was desolated in 587bce.

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  never a jw

  Whoever wrote the copy of VAT4956 did not have the tools as we do (computers and a vast array of information regarding planetary and lunar motion) to falsify something that fits so well into a year, year 568/567 BCE. Lots of things can be falsified and you can get away with it. But a fit for a particular year of astronomical data (about 36 discernible observations) can not be falsified or made up unless you have the technological advances of modern times. No way Jose. The planets and the moon will not allow lying or fabrications. They are unforgiving, unless you believe God can suspend or modified the motion of the celestial spheres, thus violating his own laws, to accomodate to whatever he wants. JW's leaders do exactly that. They interpret Bible and secular data to fit their beliefs. They don't adjust their beliefs according to facts and evidence
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  I love OUTLAW

  by losingit in

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  2. friends

  whenever he responds to a topic, i just have to laugh out loud!

  i love the visuals-- they are very much to the point.

  even with serious topics, when outlaw shows up to contribute, i smile, chuckle, giggle, or let it all out!

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  Just got reminded of the windowless kingdom hall full of window washers, which was posted right after another funny comment. He is definitely talented and very much needed here. Few of us would be in anger management sessions if it weren't for outlaw's funny visuals. Thank you OUTLAW. Don't do as Leolaia did. I miss that lady so much. I couldn't take another loss like that.